BTT
This is a great thread for everyone to think about how corrupt the WT truly is.
no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
BTT
This is a great thread for everyone to think about how corrupt the WT truly is.
soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.
soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.
anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.
Wayward Son
I know I was like what? When I heard that also. Also when I told the police that the pedophile was holding and taking care of an child during the meetings again I was told that it was the elders who are responsible.
What was explained to me by the police was that the pedophile had done his time in prison he had paid for his crime. This one pedophile was on Meghan's list for everyone to see. So it was up to the elders to make sure he did not hold kids. The example given me was like a child care for children. A pedophile could apply for a job at a child care. It is not against the law, for a child molester to apply for a job, what is against the law is for the day child care to hire the pedophile. It is the duty of the day child care to do back ground checks on all the people they hire and who work there. If the child care dose not do back ground checks then they are libel.
Plus one of the really bad pedophiles in my hall was not on Meghan's list as he had raped kids in the 70's and was sent to prison but came out of prison in the early 90's before Meghan's list came into effect. So the elders said they did not have to worry about him as he raped kids so long ago and he was not on Meghan's list. I got his PUBLIC court and police records and the court records called him an an incurable sexual psychopath highly likely to reoffend. None of the elders would take his PUBLIC police and court records that I had retrieved and that I had made copies for all the elders.
One elder put his hands up in the air when I tired to give him the records and backed away from me like I was holding a gun on him. I asked why will you not just read what this pedophile did to his own daughter, that he raped his own daughter when she was five, but the elder just kept saying NO, NO, NO I will not look at them. I was totally blown away. Why not??? They were public records after all. This pedophile even held a baby shower in the hall for anther couple with his then third wife all with the elders blessings. This guy raped at least two children five to seven year olds in the 70's one of them being his own daughter. He learned the "truth" in prison and became a JW. As soon as he got out he married a JW with you guessed it a seven year old, divorced this women and married another JW you guessed it with another seven year old girl and they had a little girl together. All of this was done with the total blessings of the elders. Now he is divorced yet again and probably on the out look for JW wife number 4. This time the JW women will probably have grand-kids. The elders just love this guy and will do anything to stand up for him and to help him. I just do not get it.
LITS
today is my first anniversary as a jwn member.
it's hard to believe that only a year has passed since i joined, but i feel that's a testament to how much i have been welcomed and made to feel like part of the furniture.. i would very much like to take this opportunity to thank everyone on the forum for the immense help and assistance i have received, particularly in my first few weeks/months of posting.
it truly was a lifeline at a very distressing time for me.
I am so glad that you are here, I love your take on things and everything you have accomplished. JW survey is wonderful. Just thanks for all of your hard work.
LITS
rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.
last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .
btt
rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.
last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .
I just really want to thank you Juan Viejo2 for all of the hard work you went to.
LITS
rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.
last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .
btt This is truly a must see. What Mr. Simons described is what I went through in the hall I attended. The child molesters were allowed to interact with everyone and no one knew. There are just too many stories out there like this. The elders told me also that they were going to "watch the children" just like Candace and Mr. Simons said. It is truly amazing that this is happening.
LITS
rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.
last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .
Thanks so much Juan Viejo2
LITS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfhsewwd3wa.
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cedars.
Thanks Juan Viejo2 and Ceaders.
LITS
born in 1950, he apparently became a regular pioneer in 1971.. but wait.... let's just say that he enlisted (or was drafted) in 1968 at age 18.... depending on the branch of service, he would have to complete anywhere from 2 to 4 years of service.
yes, duty in hot combat zones was usually limited to 6-months at a time but you still had to serve a total of 2 to 4 years depending on the branch of service.
assuming he only served 2 years, he would have been 20 years old and discharged by 1970.... how did he get witnessed to, complete a book study, become an unbaptized publisher, get baptized and then become a regular pioneer in less than year???.
LOL outlaw thanks for the great laugh.
LITS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfhsewwd3wa.
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cedars.